Puzzle: Save Bombur! 1.0

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@kjeld Perhaps I am missing something obvious, but just for confirmation. Bombur's infinite resources are only Lore resources right?

Bombur has infinite resources in his resource pool, and he has a printed icon.

Also, apologies, there was a typo in the original description -- there are only FOUR of the type 2 Cave-trolls!

So if I do this

cynl nyy arhgeny naq Yber nyyvrf, cynl Fbat bs Xvatf ba Obzohe, cynl Enqntnfg'f Fgnss ba Enqntnfg, cynl Ivyln ba Ryebaq, cynl 1fg cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra ba Obzohe, qvfpneq Ynaqebiny ba Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra. Hfr Juvgr Pbhapvy gb fuhssyr Ynaqebiny onpx va gur qrpx. Cynl Tjnvuve'f Qrog gb chg Ynaqebiny va cynl naq cynl Fjbeq-Gunva ba uvz.

I will not have

vasvavgr Fcvevg naq Gnpgvpf erfbheprf, bayl Yber naq Yrnqrefuvc barf

@Alonewolf87 That is correct.

I will give up on it for now then, I tried 5 different approaches to this one, all coming short one way or another

nzbat gurz gelvat gb bar fubg Zbeevf jvgu n Dhvpx Fgevxr + Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra/Ryira Fcrne/Snve naq Crevybhf + Ryebaq

This puzzle is really well thought out, many possible "wrong" roads to follow. Good job.

@Alonewolf87 It is indeed a fiendish challenge, and hopefully will take a while to puzzle through. A solution does exist, though!

Nyfb, V'z tynq zl Dhvpx Fgevxr erq ureevat unf rafanerq ng yrnfg bar chmmyre! =Q

Ng yrnfg V qvqa'g nyfb nqq Rys-sevraq be Abe nz V n Fgenatre gb ernyyl chfu crbcyr va gur jebat qverpgvba.

@kjeld possibly I have found a way

Cynaavat Cunfr cynl nyy arhgeny naq Yber nyyvrf, cynl Ivyln ba Ryebaq naq Enqntnfg'f Fgnss ba Enqntnfg, cynl Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra naq Fbat bs Xvatf ba Obzohe, cynl Crynetve Fuvc Pncgnva, qvfpneq Cevapr Vzenuvy jvgu Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra, fuhssyr Vzenuvy va gur rzcgl qrpx jvgu Juvgr Pbhapvy, cynl Gvzryl Nvq gb chg Vzenuvy va cynl, cynl Fjbeq-Gunva ba Vzenuvy, cynl 2aq Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra ba Vzenuvy, cynl obgu Jrnygu bs Tbaqbe ba Vzenuvy, qvfpneq Orbea/Ynaqebiny, cynl Jvyy bs gur Jrfg, fuhssyvat Orbea va gur rzcl qrpx, rkunhfg Ryebaq naq Ivyln gb chg Orbea va cynl

Pbzong Cunfr: Raibl bs Crynetve qrsraqf Zbeevf naq qvrf, Orbea qrsraqf 1fg 7 Nggnpx pnir gebyy (4 qnzntr, fcraq 1 erfbhepr ba Vbergu naq qvfpneq 1 pneq ba pnertvire gb urny uvz pbzcyrgryl), Jvylnqbe qrsraqf 2aq 7 Nggnpx Pnir Gebyy (5 qnzntr naq qvrf, 2 zber qnzntr ba Orbea, qvfpneq nabgure pneq ba Pnertvire gb urny 1 qnzntr), pnertvire qrsraqf 3eq 7 Nggnpx pnir gebyy (3 qnzntr naq qvrf, 4 qnzntr ba Orbea sbe 5 gbgny), Enqntnfg qrsraqf 4gu 7 Nggnpx pnir gebyy (4 qnzntr naq qvrf 3 qnzntr ba Ryebaq naq ur qvrf gbb). Tnynquevz Urnyre qrsraqf 5gu 7 Nggnpx gebyy (2 qnzntr fur qvrf, 2 qnzntr Yblny Ubhaq qvrf gbb, 2 qnzntr Crynetve Fuvc Pncgnva qvrf gbb, 1 qnzntr Vbergu qvrf gbb), Obzohe qvfpneqf 3 pneqf naq qrsraqf 6gu 7 nggnpx gebyy (2 qnzntr), cynl Qrsvnag Punyyratr gb ernql Obzohe, Obzohe qrsraqf 1fg 6 Nggnpx Gebyy (1 qnzntr sbe 3 gbgny); cynl Qjneira Gbzo jvgu Vzenuvy erfbhepr gb trg Qrsvnag Punyyratr onpx va unaq; cynl Qrsvnag Punyyratr ba Obzohe ntnva, Obzohe qrsraqf 2aq 6 Nggnpx gebyy (1 qnzntr sbe 4 gbgny); Vzenuvy qvfpneqf 3 pneqf naq qrsraqf 3eq 6 Nggnpx Gebyy (1 qnzntr), 4gu 6 Nggnpx gebyy tbrf haqrsraqrq ba Vzenuvy naq ur qvrf. Obzohe (naq Orbea vs V nz abg zvfgnxra) fheivirf.

@Alonewolf87 Awesome, that works as far as I can tell! It's significantly different from mine, so I'll add a note to the description to state that there are at least two separate solutions. Very cool.

Now I am even more curious to know your solution, but I will wait a few days to see what other people are able to come up with.

This is one of the reasons I really love this game, there are always many options to evolve your game state and find a way to overcome a tough spot

Small correction (due to jotting down the solution in haste)

Va gur cynaavat Cunfr V fubhyq hfr Ryebaq + Ivyln gb chg Vzenuvy va cynl naq gura Gvzryl Nvq gb chg Orbea va cynl, fvapr jura V hfr Jvyy bs gur Jrfg V jvyy fuhssyr obgu Juvgr Pbhapvy naq Orbea va gur qrpx, fb Ivyln pbhyq zvfsver.

1. Cynl rirel Yber/arhgeny punenpgre rkprcg Raibl. Cynl Cebgrpgbe naq Fbat bs Xvatf ba Obzohe. Nggnpu Ivyln gb Ryebaq.
2. Qvfpneq Vzenuvy jvgu Cebgrpgbe (1/3 Qvfpneq cre cunfr), erghea uvz jvgu jvgu Juvgr Pbhapvy, trg uvz vagb cynl jvgu Ivyln, nggnpu Fjbeq-Gunva naq 2aq Cebgrpgbe gb uvz.
3. Qvfpneq Evat Znvy naq Tjnvuve sebz lbhe unaq (3/3 Qvfpneq cre cunfr). Cynl Jvyy bs gur Jrfg, qvfpneq Ynaqebiny nsgrejneqf. Gvzryl Nvq Tjnvuve vagb cynl jub jvyy trg lbh Ynaqebiny. Hfr Jryy-Rdhvccrq gb trg Evat-Znvy ba Obzohe.
4. Cynl Raibl, Fuvcjevtug naq 2 Jrnygu ba Vzenuvy, ur unf 4 erfbheprf. Cynl Fnz naq gur Pybnx, ur unf erfbhepr.
5. Va pbzong, qvfpneq 6 hfryrff pneqf sbe gur Cebgrpgbef. Raibl qrsraqf Zbeevf, fur qvrf. Obzohe qrsraqf 7 ngg Pnir Gebyy (5 7 ngg PG erznvavat), 1 QZT, 5 UC erznvavat. Vzenuvy qrsraqf 6 ngg Pnir Gebyy (3 6 ngg PG erznvavat). Fnz qrsraqf 7 ngg PG (4 erznvavat), ur qvrf, 2 rkprff QZT ba Ryebaq. Tjnvuve qrsraqf 7 ngg PG (3 erznvavat), rkprff QZT xvyyf Ryebaq naq Tnynquevz Urnyre. Enqntnfg qrsraq 7 ngg PG (2 erznvavat), 3 rkprff QZT ba Ynaqebiny. Qrsvnag Punyyratr ernqvrf Obzohe, ur qrsraqf 6 ngg PG (2 erznvavat). Nabgure Qrsvnag Punyyratr guebhtu Qjneira Gbzo ernqvrf Obzohe ntnva, ur qrsraqf 7 ngg PG (1 erznvavat), Obzohe unf 2 QZT fb 4 UC erznvavat. Jvylnqbe Qrsraqf 7 ngg PG (0 erznvavat), gjb rkprff qnzntr tb bar ba gur Ubhaq naq 1 ba Obzohe. Vbergu urnyf Obzohe. Haqrsraqrq 6 ngg PG (1 erznvavat) ba Vzenuvy, ur qvrf. Haqrsraqrq 6 ngg (0 erznvavat) ba Obzohe, cerirag 2 qnzntr, ur unf 4 qnzntr. Ab zber Gebyyf arrq gb nggnpx. Vbergu, Pnertvire, Obzohe fheivir. Ynaqebiny fheivirf nf jryy, fb gjb zber 6 ngg Pnir Gebyyf jbhyq unir orra cbffvoyr gb qrsraq guvf jnl V guvax. Gunaxf sbe gur terng chmmyr :).

If anyone is interested, here is another one of these puzzles ... (https://ringsdb.com/decklist/view/20445/puzzle-beatingpassagethroughmirkwoodround1-1.0). It sadly does not include Bombur however, so it is only half the fun admittedly ...

@The Mormegil Very nice solution, and quite similar to @Alonewolf87's solution. Check out the additional challenge, too =)

Jryy abg zhpu punatrf, evtug? Lbh pna fgvyy qb rirelguvat nf V bhgyvarq, lbh bayl unir bar yrff qrsrafr hagvy n ureb qvrf. Ubjrire zl fbyhgvba unq Ynaqebiny va cynl fgvyy, fb gung vf abg n ceboyrz nf gur nqqvgvbany nggnpx pna whfg or qrnyg jvgu ol hfvat uvf novyvgl. Gur furanavtnaf V hfrq gb oevat bhg gur Rntyrf/Evat Znvy pna or hfrq va gur pbzong cunfr nf jryy.

Elven Jewler; can be counterbalanced by adding one more enemy to kill her

Gur fbyhgvba V unq va zvaq qbrf abg hfr Cebgrpgbe bs Ybevra qhevat gur Pbzong Cunfr, ohg V pna'g guvax bs n tbbq jbex-nebhaq gung jbhyq fgvyy nyybj gur qvfpneq bs 5 pneqf qhevat gur Cynaavat Cunfr jvgubhg oernxvat fbzr bgure pbafgenvag ba gur chmmyr. Znlor vs gur qrpx pbhyq eha 5k Qnreba'f Eharf...

Yes, you are right, Elven Jeweler would work with the addition of another troll, perhaps Great Cave-troll to keep up the theme (http://hallofbeorn.com/LotR/Details/Great-Cave-troll-KD?Lang=EN).

Another solution:

1. Cynl rirel arhgeny/yber nyyl rkprcg Raibl, cynl Ivyln naq Fjbeq-Gunva ba Ryebaq, cynl Cebgrpgbe naq Fbat bs Xvatf ba Obzohe. Cynl Fuvcjevtug, zbivat erfbhepr gb Ryebaq.
2. Qvfpneq Tjnvuve naq Sbeabfg Objzna. Cynl Jvyy bs gur Jrfg, qvfpneq Ynaqebiny. Hfr Ivyln/Gvzryl Nvq gb trg Ynaqebiny, Tjnvuve naq Sbeabfg Objzna. Ernql Ryebaq jvgu Qrsvnag Punyyratr. Hfr Onegrevat gb zbir Fjbeq Gunva gb Tjnvuve, trarengr 1 erfbhepr ba uvz guebhtu Juvgr Pbhapvy, Dhvpx Fgevxr Zbeevf jvgu gur Objzna.
3. Onegre Fjbeq Gunva sbe Fjbeq Gunva ba Vbergu, tvir ure 3 erfbheprf guebhtu Jrnygu bs Tbaqbe/Raibl.
4. Pbzong: Qvfpneq 3 pneqf sbe Cebgrpgbe, qrsraq jvgu Obzohe ntnvafg 5 ngg PG (3 erznvavat). Qrsraq jvgu Enqntnfg ntnvafg 6 ngg PG, rkprff ba Obzohe (5 erznvavat, 2 QZT ba Obzohe). Qrsraq 6 ngg PG jvgu Tjnvuve, rkprff ba Obzohe (4 erznvavat, 3 QZT ba Obzohe). Qrsraq jvgu Jvylnqbe 6 ngg PG, rkprff ba Obzohe (3 erznvavat, 4 QZT ba Obzohe). Qrsraq 6 ngg jvgu Tnynquevz Urnyre, fur qvrf, 3 rkprff ba Ynaqebiny, 1 ba Pnertvire (2 erznvavat). Haqrsraq 5 ngg PG, xvyy Obzohe, erghea uvz jvgu Ynaqebiny (2 erznvavat). Qrsraq 5 ngg PG jvgu Obzohe, ur unf 4 QZT (1 erznvavat). Haqrsraq ynfg 5 ngg, xvyy Obzohe. Qrsraq 6 ngg jvgu Ryebaq, ur qvrf (1 erznvavat). Pnertvire urnyf uvzfrys. Qrsraq ynfg 6 ngg jvgu Yblny Ubhaq, 3 rkprff ba Objzna, 1 ba Pnertvire.
5. Erserfu: Hfr Vberguf erfbheprf gb cynl Ubhfrf bs Urnyvat (erqhprq ol Pnertvire naq urefrys) sbe 3. Obzohe errragref cynl naq vf nyvir ng gur raq bs gur ebhaq. Fuvcjevtug, Raibl, Vbergu, Pnertvire, Mbzovr Obzohe nyvir naq jryy, Vbergu novyvgl abg arrqrq, Pnertvire 1/2 gevttref arrqrq, Yblny Ubhaq gevttre abg arrqrq. Gurersber, fbzr fghss pbhyq or bcgvzvmrq sbe n ovttre obneq ng gur raq bs gur ghea ohg gung qbrf abg ernyyl znggre bs pbhefr :).

I assume that is the other way you had in mind?

Vg'f dhvgr nznmvat ubj znal qvssrerag jnlf guvf pna or fbyirq -- cerggl pbby. Gur fbyhgvba V unq va zvaq vf irel fvzvyne va gur raq erfhyg, ohg hfrf Vzenuvy engure guna gur Objzna gb gnxr nqinagntr bs n oevrs jvaqbj bs npprff gb n Fcvevg vpba gb cynl Qrsvnag Punyyratr gjvpr, nyybjvat Vzenuvy cyhf Ubhaq gb gnax gjb bs gur 6-ngg ureb-bayl Pnir-gebyyf.

@The Mormegil Your first solution is very interesting, hats off to you.