At the End of All Things, Gloin is rich (victory display ver 1.0

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You might consider Rivendell Minstrel and/or Heed the Dream to help find the two songs -- you might even be able to drop down to 2x of each that way. Entmoot could be another option, especially with a couple of extra Wandering Ents (I'd drop Boots from Erebor, Explore Secret Ways, and maybe Keen as Lances). For big allies, Soldier of Erebor and Knight of Dale are fantastic -- probably better than Haleth in this build. Magic Ring is also very good with Treebeard, as you have no other ways to ready him.

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I really like your suggestion with Rivendell Minstrel !

Keen as Lances is better in multi but If i cut it and add magic ring which is a good idea, i might have some issues with my threat no? I start at 30, i have The One Ring, Deep Knowledge...

nice idea to use contract with gloin, you will make much money, i would use Lórien's Wealth and perhaps Protector of Lórien or Treebeard

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Lórien's Wealth instead of Keen as Lances maybe?

I have much money and i think prefere play my cards with it instead of discard with Protector of Lórien.

nice deck, i also really like using Gloin with At the end of allt thins, his ability really works well with the contract. I would probably ad King Under the Mountain for card draw, then you might also ad Ered Luin Miner or Hidden Cache for discard synergy.

with this much carddraw you can possible have more than 50 cards. lets calculate: asuming 10 rounds of play and enough money:

6 start +10 deault + 0-9 gandal-sneack, + 0-9 gandalf, + 9 loriens wealth+ 0-9 keen + 6 deep knowledge + 3 lesson in caution = 34-61 cards drawn + darons runes (+6), i would say take both more flexibility and all in all faster.

btw. i think:

"With treebeard he can also collect resources with Song of Mocking without needing ennemies."

is perhaps not possible.

because (and i do not like the rule but i think it unction this way) you can only do thingy, that change the "so called" boardstate. and even gloin get a wound and a rs, it is not the "boardstate" that was meant. the initial wound, does not change the boardstate, because Treebeard did not get the wound, so he did not get the bonus so, no change o "boardstate". the other things are only Actions/reactions ollowing the initial use of the ability, that is not alowed this way.

another point, i do not know i it would be inside the possibilities of Song of Mocking because wording is assign (that would be done in combat and archery) treebeards ability do "deal".

playing with me i have no problem using Song of Mocking the way you want, but officially i think it is not allowed.

that does not make the strategy worthless, but less effective, you cannot exactly determine how many wounds he get.

@doomguard It does work according to a ruling from Caleb, see here: boardgamegeek.com Gloin can take the damage and get the resource, although Treebeard cannot also get the + or + .

@kjeld hm, o.k. then the boardstate-thing seems totally random for me....

is there anywhere a list, what can be done and what not? (e.g. Close Call using for 0 or use a cram on a ready character is not allowed, discard for To the Sea, to the Sea! is allowed, no matter if it will be used. can Desperate Alliance be played without using the action? actions are optional, but it changes no "boardstate"????.... all those cases, that do not directly something, but using this eventaction can trigger more e.g. Council of the Wise )

@Kaspatousorry for using your deck for that theme, but i try to understand it....

@Roka, i think that an additional discard mechanic needs too many cards, and we have enough ressources to play our cards, we don't need hidden cache or a free dwarf. Thank you for your suggestion nevertheless !

@ doomguard, i was aware of these rules but it doesn't bother me at all, the discussion is interesting. :)