keep an eye on sméagol... 1.0

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Very nice! I wish I could use this, but, card pool.

lol

But he true beauty of grey wanderer Sméagol is : you don't want to kill Gollum.

As soon as Sméagol has flipped, he can take all attacks undefended. You don't have to worry about combat anymore... Maybe just give him Radagast or Treebeard so he can pay for some allies that can quest.

An epic play would be to find a way to play The Hammer-stroke with a flipped Grey Wanderer Sméagol. Gollum "defends" for the table!

@Truck sorry, nowadays i mostly play on OCTGN so i tend to forget about card pools. i saw on your profile you "stole from me", actually you stole from Marthe Troly-Curtin, i just though that quote was very appropriate for this game and website.

@Emmental perhaps mulligan for Treebeard or Radagast and play an ent or creature deck. It would be awful but at least defense is covered.

@kjeld how do you play The Hammer-stroke without a hero to pay for it?

@Emmental i disagree. in most cases you are right, but there is another option to benefit from his special way. you can exploit the engagement, e.g. with sam and mablung.

a point that makes haldir less effective, if haldir is startingplayer it will not work to snipe him (he turns to gollum in the staging and then he engages)

@doomguard You are right, somehow in my head gollum was engaging it's own player (because to me that would make more sense both thematically and mechanically for multiplayer, that gollum turns on his friends and that the player choosing to play sméagol is the one who has to deal with the consequences)

that changes things, now there is a 50 % chance of gollum attacking Haldir of Lórien which with his 3 hp is not great.

maybe Grimbeorn the Old with a Dagger of Westernesse (gollum has (à engagment cost) would be better suited, whoever the first player is grimbeorn can defend and spend a resource to attack gollum for 5

(by (à i meant 50, my shift key got stuck)

the "natural" gollum-tamer is Beorn. he can defend unexhausted and can nacked punch him back to gollum. someone made a deck (or fellowship) with gollum and beorn.

here was the first with that idea: ringsdb.com

yes Beorn is obvious, but being immune to card effects he makes a terrible grey wanderer, and pairing him with other hereos kills the main advantage of grey wanderer sméagol being low threat

Great idea

@askelad -- another player could use Desperate Alliance to temporarily transfer a tactics hero to the Gollum player during the Encounter phase. That hero could pay for The Hammer-stroke and then would return to the original player before the combat phase. Et voila, Gollum defends for the table.

@kjeld ok now that's an interesting combo.

to pull it of you need to have reavealed stinker and leave gollum in enemy mode until a bunch of enemies are revealed, then Desperate Alliance a tactic hero with 2 resource, and smeagol needs The Hammer-stroke.

for your reward you have feinted all enemies in play indefinitely, with the drawback of only being able to attack them with ranged heroes.

i'm just worried that the smeagol player doing nothing is not worth the investment: there are decks out there that can play The Hammer-stroke and spam Thicket of Spears (Book of Eldacar and Háma) , Out of Sight (Dwarven Tomb and Map of Earnil) and Hobbit-sense for a very long time.

see ringsdb.com or ringsdb.com

@askelad It's more of a "cool play" hijinks thing than an actual top-tier strategy -- but it would be pretty funny if you managed to pull it off. Imagine all of these orcs and wargs and trolls and whatever else searching high and low for a hero to attack... and all there is is this stinker Gollum =D

@kjeld i agree, it's pretty hilarious... Well let's get to work then!

lets build two decks that work together, one of them being The Grey Wanderer Sméagol, the other being designed to play Desperate Alliance and The Hammer-stroke consistently (and possibly recurring them) while having a lot of ranged damage.

Message from Elrond can also help, to get the gollumdeck a hammerstroke

@doomguard true, that way you have virtually 6 copies of The Hammer-stroke to dig for

@kjeld you might want to check this out: ringsdb.com

thanks a lot for the brillant idea!