Secrecy Swarm 2.0

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warlock000 3865

warlock000 has a newer deck inspired by this one: Secrecy Hobbits: A Swarm Deck

Please keep in mind that I don't own the 6 packs from the Haradrim cycle nor the Vengeance of Mordor cycle/Deluxe set.

Here's a version of my older beloved secerecy deck with some minor tweaks.

Mulligan for Timely Aid. Light of Valinor or other secrecy cards will be just as valuable in your opening hand, try to play as many cards early on as possible. Drinking Song is also great, it allows you to find secrecy cards much faster.

Rivendell Scout, Dúnedain Wanderer, Celduin Traveler and Ithilien Lookout are fantastic "ammo" for A Very Good Tale as they enter play cheap, but provide a lot of resources.

Use cards from sideboard if you absolutely need condition removal or shadow cancellation in a given quest.

5 comments

Jun 19, 2024 doomguard 2121

would add Rosie Cotton and 1-2 Fast Hitch

would replace Anborn, Protector of Lórien and perhaps 1 Light of Valinor or 1 Ithilien Lookout

Jun 19, 2024 warlock000 3865

Rosie Cotton is a great idea!

Jun 20, 2024 Some Sort 3789

I love it! Timely Aid decks are my all-time favorite (and most-played) decks, this one looks super fun.

One general note: typically any deck with Lore access is made better by including Daeron's Runes. It helps you find your important stuff much faster and pretty much always leaves you better off— you don’t wind up with more cards in your hand after playing it, but since the card you discard is always your worst or least important, you always wind up with a better hand after playing it. One could quite reasonably argue it’s the best card in the game.

(If you’re building multiple decks at once with a single cardpool, you won’t have enough runes to go around.)

Also, from a probability standpoint, if you have a Hobbit hero you should never mulligan any hand with Drinking Song in it. Mulliganing lets you see 7 new cards (the new six plus your first round draw). Keeping the Drinking Song lets you see 8 new cards (your first turn draw, plus the 7 new cards after playing the Song). (Additionally, after you play the first drinking song, there are only 49 cards in your deck post-shuffle, which very marginally increases your odds of seeing a specific one.)

Jun 20, 2024 warlock000 3865

"Also, from a probability standpoint, if you have a Hobbit hero you should never mulligan any hand with Drinking Song in it." - in this deck you should, because your goal is to play as many cards with secrecy as you can while still in secrecy. You play what you can after your standard mulligan, then use Drinking Song and you hope to still find something you can play (e.g. another Timely Aid).

I agree about Daeorn's Runes, I just wanted to try some other lore cards with card draw this time around ;). I figured Drinking Song would be better here for what I want to achieve (i.e. find secrecy cards very quickly). Peace and Thought also works great.

Jun 21, 2024 Some Sort 3789

@warlock000 I'm saying you'll see more secrecy cards in your first planning phase on average by KEEPING a hand with Drinking Song (but no secrecy cards) than you would be mulliganing a hand with Drinking Song (but no secrecy cards).

Say there are 20 targets in your deck (17 secrecy cards + 3 Light of Valinor). If none of them are in your opening six cards, there's a 20 in 44 chance (about 45%) that you'll get one with your draw in the first round, at which point you can play it first and then Drinking Song to go looking for more.

If you don't get one, then after your Drinking Song you get seven fresh cards, almost exactly the same as if you'd mulliganed your opening hand (except you're slightly more likely to see secrecy cards this time around since you're drawing 7 cards from a 49-card deck instead of a 50-card deck, and you're a bit less likely to get another Drinking Song in your new seven cards because there are only two left in the deck rather than three-- about a 27% shot instead of a 37% shot. But that's not enough to outweigh the extra card you see pre-drinking song.)

As a general rule, no matter what it is want to see, if you have a Hobbit hero you should never mulligan a hand with Drinking Song (because keeping the Drinking Song makes it more likely you find it).