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Seastan 24922

A remarkably consistent deck, despite the 1x limitations imposed by the contract. And by consistent, I mean consistently strong, not necessarily consistent gameplay, as it depends a lot on what cards you see.

Mulligan for Vilya, Word of Command, or Heed the Dream. These cards emulate having 3x Vilya in the deck. Gather Information is a backup, as you don't want to rely on questing well in order to find Vilya. You want to have Vilya out on turn 2 at the latest.

Then you've got effectively 4 cards that help you stack your top card: Imladris Stargazer, Gildor Inglorion, Wizard Pipe, and Bilbo Baggins (who fetches the pipe). You should run into one of these early on (or find one with another search card) and you are good to go with standard Vilya shenanigans.

There's also a very high percentage of strong cards in the deck, so you don't necessarily need to wait for one of your top-deck setup cards. Just have Gandlaf play the cheap allies/events off the top until you come to a big one, then have Vilya put it into play.

The starting threat is quite high, so we have Elrond's Counsel, The Galadhrim's Greeting, and Double Back. But we also have access to consistent threat reduction with the contract. There are enough events and card draw in the deck to play at least one event per round, so your threat should not increase very much all game.


May 25, 2020 doomguard 179

i would inrcease the events by 5 and reduce allies by 5. with only 15 ebents you could be doe in round 5. seems ti few for me. would put in:

  • we here not idle (great in council, a card and one of the 3 options)
  • hidden cache (with council worth played as event or discarded with sldier of erebor)
  • man the walls (usefull for many allies that will not bevilyad in)
  • Hope Rekindled (cost nothing, trigger contract and gives free shuffle)
  • feint
  • depends, how fast te deck is done, will of the west, perhaps instead of hidden cache

wich allies would i cut?:

  • Ranger
  • defender of cair andros
  • anborn
  • giant bear

would add additional, the light of valinor for elrond.

then depends on testing, let it be 52 or reduce by 2 more allies.

May 26, 2020 Seastan 24922

@doomguard Thanks for the suggestions. I considered those events, but wanted to keep the high ally count for two reasons.

  1. In early game you do not want to accidentally get stuck in a situation where you cannot use Vilya on a big ally. Later in the game when you are able to manipulate your deck this is not a big deal. But in round 1, if you get Vilya out (which is the goal) Gandalf will have limited opportunity to clear out the top card. If the next card is something like Man the Walls, Feint, Hidden Cache that you cannot play or afford, it is a big loss.
  2. After you find Vilya, it is highly recommended to use your next search card to find A Very Good Tale, which in this deck represents 8+ resources, well worth even a full strength Heed the Dream. By dropping the ally count down, this card becomes much weaker. Maybe not worth including anymore. And the gain of a couple extra triggers of the Contract do not make up for the loss of such a strong card.

May 26, 2020 doomguard 179

i would say, with gandalf, there is a very good chance to play the event away if its on he top, and wait with the carddrawing there is another chance, if after that event there is another, that you draw. anf if there is a third, you can play it with gandalf in the qustphase. seems to me, there are many ways to play events from the top to get to the juicy allys. o.k. man the walls and feint are then perhaps not the best, but there are many that can be played every time.but perhaps i should test it on my own. which szenarios did u test, yet?

May 26, 2020 Alonewolf87 511

Always some cool decks, kudos. By the way no Light of Valinor?

May 26, 2020 Seastan 24922

@Alonewolf87 Mistake on my part. I originally had Galadriel instead of Denethor, and Vilya felt like a nonbo with her ability if you wait until after commiting to use it. It should definitely be in there now (and probably would have still been worth it despite the nonbo).

@doomguard I tested it against Escape from Umbar, which it crushed. I could tell that it would be capable of beating harder quests as well.

May 27, 2020 Beorn 7993

Any reason why you didn’t include a copy of Expert Treasure-hunter? It seems like an auto-include in any Gandalf deck.

May 28, 2020 Seastan 24922

@Beorn In a standard Gandalf deck I think it's an auto-include, but the extra cards you burn through here by the deck being event-heavy, in addition to the contract and Vilya, I found myself not missing it.