BearEstor Recurs Redundantly 1.0

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Did you consider Nori, as well? And without a dedicated defender, maybe some Feint and possibly Revealed in Wrath (at least as a sideboard card). Relic of Nargothrond would also make Erestor into a credible mid-range defender. Could drop some Eregion Survivor to make room -- that seems to be the weakest link.

i like the basestrategy, but it is imo not troll-proved for his startingthread of 31.

but it inspired me to make a deck with Elladan instead of Glorfindel

I tinkered with the idea of creating a dedicated defender using Box of Earth with Cloak of Lórien and Protector of Lórien, but I found in playtesting that the Giant Bears and Beorn were doing most of the heavy lifting in combat. I'll try enhancing Erestor's defense on the next iteration. I can think of a few cards I could swap out out in order to open up more defense options .

As there's really no other card draw or discard retention in the deck, Eregion Survivors are usually activated each round. Plus, they're great for progress throttling by discarding your last card to Protector of Lórien during the Quest player action window.

It's not too difficult to set up a bear or Beorn on Round 1, but if that fails, an early Elrond's Counsel can get you under 30 and away from a troll's attention.

Thanks for your input, -PB-

here is my version. www.ringsdb.com

would like to discuss, what version is better.

@doomguard I think the original deck is better for what the author is trying to do. In your version you seem to be trying to recreate the Noldor swarm deck with a minor addition of the Beornings, while in the OG version the Beornings are the main focus, as well as beefing up individual heroes, mainly Glorfindel.

Cool idea, love seeing Bears in action.

@Swordthatwasbroke i think both have the same probability and possibilities to get the bears out. i fokus more on get additional noldor-allies out, this have a mix of other allies and more attachements, why do you think it is more to the base-idea erestor helps get bears out?

i would think they both have a similar amount of beornings out at the same time (that only depends on draw the Beorning Skin-changer discarding the bears and re-use the Beorning Skin-changer with Stand and Fight both supported by arwen, who makes it possible to play either of it in 1 round . while i can hope for the noldor-discount because of To the Sea, to the Sea! and start below 30 here it is a mix of allies with some dwarfes to improve the discarding parts and a use of glorfindel from the start for the cost of higher startingthread.

@doomguard, I checked out your build. I like the addition of the Beorning Guardians, and I completely forgot to add copies of Daeron's Runes!

Since I decided not to focus on card draw and retention, I would not have the resources to play 3+ cost Noldor allies without relying on To the Sea, to the Sea!. Instead, I focused on 2 cost or lower cards. Due to my empty hand, tri-sphere heroes, and discarded Beorning Skin-changers, the Noldor allies that made the cut were mechanically sound for this deck.

One big thing I do not like about this build is some of the item recursion. It spends too many Lore resources to draw Lore attachments.

I tested a bit more last night and will have a 2.0 revision up today that runs a bit cleaner.

Another similar deck here, which I posted a few months ago. ringsdb.com In the current version I'm playing 3 copies of Will of the West instead of A Test of Will, which clearly is not a good card in Erestor decks.

I found Elven Jeweler to be great for this deck. Specially if you draw it in the first round where you'll have to discard a lot of cards. Also I'm staying out of ALEP cards, but the main idea of the deck is very similar.

My first go with Beorning Skin-changers was a The Grey Wanderer Galadriel deck, It uses similar recursion mechanics. With quick bears and secrecy, it was quite a powerhouse. Check it out:

You Will Set Up a Queen www.ringsdb.com

Here's an updated version of the deck: Bearestor) Recurs Redundantly Again