Optimized Multiplayer Gauntlet with Alep for most of the arc 1.0

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Nice list! I think the link for Woodman is broken.

Thanks! You are right, that is just because of that small / at the end. The correct link is: ringsdb.com .

A big thanks tor mormegil also for the idea of the concept of a deck to list them all.

@ hama-deck, i would include more weapons in this case 3 Dagger of Westernesse attachable to everyone. because of the discount of the contract, i think the boost from Legacy of Númenor is not really needed here. more weapons seem more effective for me

would then add more Onward Into Battle at least by 1 (for the now if discarding Legacy of Númenornot usefull The Seeing-stone )

would perhaps replace the We Are Not Idle by Open the Armory a nearly secure weapon/armor seems more beneficial to me, than the so called reduced deck by 1.

give my thoughts to some other decks soon, hope you appriciate it. or if not plz tell.

to the At the End of All Things deck. are you sure, that the contract gives "printed" spheres? if not, the Advance Warning is not playable

@doomguard For Hama you are right if we want to optimize the deck to make it possible to do more by itself I would do those change. But that is not how the whole thing is designed. Of course legacy of numenor and steward are not that good for the deck, but it will give SO much to the other players (I know if for sure since they are usually playing other deck of this gauntlet). Hama is a deck that does the fight very well. It is a deck that really enjoy the three hunters contract because he doesn't want to play allies anyway (I was playing 2 allies before the contract get printed). But he doesn't rely on flipping it actually. Getting reduction for many attachments, having a third attachment on each is awesome. And sure, at some point flipping it and healing will be good. But that is less important that in any other three hunters I ever saw. So we have little things to make the heroes quest, and we are counting on the other players (that had receive resources to do so) to do the quest.

Actually Onward into battle is probably one of the weakest cards in the deck now I think. I need a bit more playtest because it is the most recent inclusion but as strong as onward is for three hunters deck, here we have a quite different way of building this deck.

On we are not idle I do think you are making a logical mistake. Without any way of fetching the deck for a specific cards among X (like open the armory, or vilya or a very good tales), or a mechanic that make you getting to the bottom of your deck so fast and with so many cards losses in the way that you may have the use of having more effective cards (there is no such deck in my mind in the game, even with erestor) we are not idle doesn't have any flaw. It is not coincidence if probably like 97% of the decks in ringsdb play 50 cards and not 53 or 68. Playing less cards make you draw the best cards more often. And if there is some corner case where having we are not idle is not identical as playing 47 cards they are so rare that is almost not worth to consider them. So I don't want to play open the armory because of the way the deck is centred on the event, not on the attachment even if that mean not building it as a classic three hunters deck. But I won't definitely not cut we are not idle for a very different reason that is not linked to the purpose of the deck (who can be differently optimized for a different situation probably) but to a more essential deckbuilding matter.

I really do appreciate some critics on my deck! I will probably not change my decks for some of them, because they are things I already think of, playtest or discuss with people but for each time something really helpful come it worth the pain, and I can't know in advance if it will be from a discussion from something I thought I have already solve a long time ago or not ;).

Good call from advance warning! It is not in my decklist anymore, it was a mistake from my initial list and I forget to change it or put the wrong decklist in the description. I will look at it this instant!

@hama it is understandable if you do not want to flipp fast. but i think, flipping fast (or have the option to) is in 95% better than not. if you can flipp it does not mean you have to. if you have nice attachments you want the discount, you can wait, but having an option sounds in most cases better to me, than not having the option.

@ elrond-vilya the herosetup is in fact my favourite for gandalfvilya. i would make minor adjustments:

• add at least 1 Shadowfax specially in multiplayer such a good card
• add 1 Gondorian Shield and 1 Dúnedain Warning or 2 Dúnedain Warning to make gandalf a good sentinel defender i know there are good allies to defend, but they cannot defend str 6 attacks and that are often specially in nihgtmare would reduce Déorwine, Boromir and Yazan (Legolas is so much better)
• would make room for one of the best allies in the game 3 Rhovanion Outrider i rate them better than the Bree-land Protector yes, you would not have Alep-card within at all, but the vilya-archetype was not buffed by alep by intension. it is good as it is with original content

or if i would not want to defend with gandalf, then there are not so much Unexpected Courage needed and ther can made room for better allies with Hauberk of Mail, but i think the best way is to boost gandalf

@gwahir, would add 1 pipe. its so good with Gwaihir's Debt then i would add Gandalf but i think you leave him intentionally because it should be able to play together with a gandalf-hero-deck. within a Gwaihir -deck for me Flight of the Eaglesis autoinclude. not only for the good allies shuffled into the encounterdeck, the (main)purpose for me is the readying for Gwaihir whenever you want for 1 res/saved (Vassal of the Windlord or Wilyador)

@ entdeck. i like it overall. the idea to combine Faramir with Aragorn is genius. i think, Mablung would be a nice addition to trigger Faramir a 3rd time the round you play Mablung. he is perhaps even worth including Sneak Attack for multiple use.

Wait no Longer would give another option for faramir, did u consider that?

For Hama sure flipping is better than not flipping. But it come as a cost. If you want to flip on turn one you need to play, for a quite realistic example, 6 attachement with a 1-cost. So all your resources and 6 over 7 cards are dedicated to that. And you should play like 42 attachements to do that. Of course in the real life some cards drawing may be involved (friend that play deep knowledge, foe hammer) and you can have the same exemple with flipping on turn 2 at a 0 cost. But what work for turn 3 work also for latter. If you wait until turn 3 you can have a bunch more of cost reduction, and more chance to draw your cards. And that is what I do: I don't care about having the restricted in my beginning hand for flipping the contract. I want to play on turn one the good restricted needed for my deck, and then draw cards as part of my deck mechanic and eventually flip the contract when founding more of those restricted. I will not play dagger of westernesse who is a bad card for this deck in the intent of flipping quicker the contract. What good will it make me? It is not even sure I will go into questing, I just trade resource reduction for healing. It is great at some point but I can afford to wait a bit for that. And in the meantime I can easily pay my events and actually do the job for my deck mechanic through events that make fight looks very easy.

@Vilya : Vilya is supposed to be a quest deck, so paired with fight deck. That is another thing with my project: decks are thinked altogether and I did not plan to try to handle all myself, but rather trying to be good at what I'm asked to ge good. Or at least I won't play some dunedain warning when I don't even have a leadership sphere (so pipe is needed). He is a strong deck that deploy good answer at some points for the fight but it first focus on questing, not helping other people to fight. Unexpected courage is very good on elrond, and a first one on gandalf too. It can be quite good on other heroes sometimes, that is really the best deck to play them. But playing rhovanion outrider or northern tracker is something I really consider. My plays patterns are often influenced more by 2 players mode, where they are not much needed. For a 4 player nothern tracker would be essential. They sould be at least in sideboard.

For eagle I don't play gandalf because it only work on gwaihir's debt and that is even more random than sneak attack/gandalf (who is already too slow for almost all nowadays good decks). I do agree that flight of the eagles is quite interesting, but there is just not worst card in the decks. It just don't do the cut. I have various way of drawing the right cards, doing some tricks so gwaihir reading is quite safe (I would probably play a 2nd crown if it would be a concern).

For ent mablung was there, as a hero or an ally, and so was wait no longer. But not the deck is reduced to his essential tools and usually can't spare the expanse of those cards, and prefer to expand his board. Especially since cutting man the walls would be my first option if I wanted to follow your instruction and that would make the issue worst.

@vilya, i wonder why then the tactic-allies at all, and not take more better questallies.

@eagle i think with the high startingthread, gandalf is in mid-lategame very usefull not only with sneack or Gwaihir's Debt also as threadreduction paid normally. i know you want to go fast (thats why you allways use Legacy of Númenor but there are many szearios out, where are delays within the quest you cannot overgo, and so need your time.